Minutes of the 2020 Annual Masters Meeting (online)
Annual Masters Meeting 2020
Held online from June 3-7 with electronic voting and responses.
Present: 56 Master sailors took part
1. Introduction from the President
Andy Denison made a brief video presentation.
2. Approval of the 2019 Minutes
The minutes of the 2019 Annual Masters Meeting were approved unanimously with two abstentions.
3. Matters Arising *
Q: In 2020 may be POSSIBLE to combine the Senior Finn Gold Cup and the Finn World Masters?
A: It was decided early on that this would not be a possibility.
4. Bids for 2022
As there is only one bid, the 2022 Finn World Masters is awarded to Helsinki, Finland.
5. President's Report
Welcome to the 2020 Annual Masters Meeting. It is unprecedented for us to have to do this online, but I hope you will all engage with this process and this week’s activities as we try to keep the Finn spirit going. We only have a few decisions to make, so please vote for them if you are eligible. In line with normal policy, only those who entered for the 2020 Finn World Masters, either before it was cancelled, or those who notified us later that they intended to enter, are eligible to vote.
I would like to start by thanking Jan Zetzema and his very enthusiastic team for the organisation of the 2020 Finn Word Masters. It is very hard to comprehend the disappointment it meant for them to have to cancel, but I can tell you that cancelling was almost as much work as organising it in the first place. Our thanks to all those, too many to mention, listed on the Masters website together with this report.
That cancellation left the Masters Committee with some tough decisions to make on your behalf. Our host for 2021, Puntala, requested that we postpone their event as they felt their financial situation would not be sufficiently recovered by 2021. Due to other commitments, the first year this was possible was 2024, so we made the decision to defer until then. Then, and only then, did we ask Finn Club Holland if they would like to try again? The result was an offer to hold it at Medemblik, which we have gladly accepted. Our thanks to Chris Frijdal and his team for making that happen.
For 2022 we only have one bid presented in time, from Helsinki, to coincide with the 70th anniversary of the 1952 Olympics. The Committee have taken the decision to award the 2022 Finn World Masters to Helsinki ahead of the Annual Masters Meeting as there were no other bids.
We have two interested bids for 2023. The deadline for receiving any further bids is February 1, 2021.
It hasn’t been necessary for me to visit potential venues in 2019. Robert was in a position to visit and do the report for Finland. I did attend the European masters in Schwerin. It was disappointing to see that from 95 entries, only 70 paid up, with 25 not cancelling or turning up. This left the budget short for both the event and the masters account. We have no alternative but to seek the payment from the offenders as per our rule. The committee is firm on this.
Work is ongoing in updating the Event Manual and the documents to clarify the entry process and obligations of organisers and entrants.
In October I attended Bermuda World Sailing conference, representing the Finn Class and doing my best with the others to try and keep the Finn in the Olympics.
We had a look at Club 2 Class registration and equipment limitation services, which has been developed in conjunction with Richard Phillips. This is still on-going work. The random selection process is ready to be used at future events and my thanks to Ray New for overseeing this.
It’s been discussed to end registration on the Sunday at 11am. This allows the Random process to be collated in time for the event. It’s also been suggested to have the countries together in the boat park with the option for Legends to choose to be with their own countries or in the Legend park.
Because of Covid-19 cancellations, our budget forecast has taken a real hammering. We have got funds in place to see us through to next year, but we need to be careful with expenditure. I want to thank everybody who came to the rescue by way of a €30 donation or a forfeit in their entry fee for 2020. This did ‘save the day’, hugely supporting the organisers funds and assisting the cost to the Masters for the purchased prizes.
I hope we can gather in Gdynia later this year for the Finn European Masters. We will issue further updates when we get more clarity on whether an event will be possible.
6. Election of officers
No positions up for re-election in 2020
7a. Accounts Statement
Also available on finnworldmaster.org together with Balance Sheet
7b. Questions and matters arising from the accounts *
Several comments were made that the accounts were incomplete. This was an oversight. The balance sheet and profit/loss for 2019 are now published with these minutes.
Q: Should the Masters become a membership-based association so that all Finn Masters can contribute to the FWM on an annual basis? This would provide a known income stream and avoid the roller coaster ride re attendance to FWM and Europeans and consequent uncertainty about the FWM contribution each year.
A: Under review.
Q: Please explain what the IFA do for the Masters as I do not see how the money taken from every national association does anything other than support the Olympic sailors.
A: IFA provides Finnfare to all Masters, an annual sticker, trains measurers, provides advice on running NCA and events, maintains a strong class association to maintain the value of Masters boats, provides media and websites, which are generally enjoyed by more Masters than Olympic sailors. The IFA also pays €2500 per year to the Masters account to cover operational expenses.
8. Change to Masters Rules
Proposal: In the future it may be desirable to combine the Senior Finn Europeans and the Finn European Masters. To do so would mean the removal of our 20 knot wind limit. The change is to insert the following wording in the Event Manual.
"F1.1.11 If the Finn European Masters is combined with the Senior European Championships, or any other comparable Senior event, then Rule B.10.2 will not apply."
Please bear in mind that voting against this change may mean it is not possible to hold a Finn European Masters in a particular year, if the only viable option remains to combine with another event.
This motion was approved with 50 in favour, 3 against and 3 abstentions.
9a. Report on Magazine
The 2020 Finn Masters Magazine was a struggle in terms of finance. It is getting harder to attract advertising, which now is around half of what it was a few years back. We stripped back costs by making it smaller and sending out fewer copies. While the Masters account can probably sustain this cost, we are asking whether this is a good use of Masters funds. [We think it is.] As we found out this year, the problems associated with COVID -19 meant that our accounts took a huge hit, and it is unlikely we could do the same next year without further advertiser support. We need to decide whether to produce one next year, if that is possible. Please remember advertising is open to anyone, whether or not it is related to Finn sailing. So please consider whether your company would support next year's edition.
Question: Is the Magazine still useful and valued? Should the Masters produce a magazine in 2021?
40 in favour, 10 against, 6 abstentions
10. Future Venues
FEM 2020 – Gdynia, POL
FWM 2021 – Medemblik, NED
FEM 2021 – Tihany, HUN
FWM 2022 - Helsinki, FIN
FEM 2022 - Bids being accepted
2023 – Bids being accepted for both FWM and FEM
2024 – Puntala, ITA
11. Feedback and comments *
Q: With respect to the magazine I found it a pity that both Finnfare and the Master magazine arrived at the same time.
A: Just bad scheduling due to a packed season. They were actually published about 2-3 week apart.
Q: Many classes only have a European Championship, when the worlds are outside Europe. Probably this is something to consider for the Finn Masters as well.
A: This would need to be discussed at an AMM, but as the World Masters has only ever been outside Europe twice, this would effectively kill the Europeans.
Q: What was the general feeling for the reasons why Denmark and Schwerin were down on numbers?
A: Fears of bad weather and cost in Denmark. Few German sailors sailed in Schwerin.
Q: What are the plans to mitigate for Finland?
A: We will bring Finland closer to the Mediterranean and provide free wind for everyone.
Q: Is the Finland report available for viewing?
A: It is on the website, and a shorter version was published in the last magazine.
Q: Maybe the Finn Masters magazine should only be available in PDF format. Saves printing and shipping expenses.
A: After two surveys this year, a large majority of members seem to prefer the printed version. However costs are kept under constant review.
The date of next AMM will be May 26, 2021, Medemblik, Holland
* There was a lot of feedback and comments. A representative selection of comments has been included here and some questions have been answered. A number of questions were not relevant to the AMM, being more pertinent to the IFA AGM. However the IFMC will review all questions and comments.
Agenda for 2020 Annual Masters Meeting
To be published online from 0900 BST/10.00 CET on June 3, 2020 to 12.00 BST/13.00CET on June 7, 2020
Voting papers will be distributed only to eligible Masters on June 3.
The Annual Masters Meeting will be published on the morning of Wednesday 3, June from about 0900 BST/1000 CEST. All those who registered for the FWM 2020 will be sent the voting papers and only those Masters may vote. It will take the form of an interactive form with a few votes, and a few things to read, and which can be completed any time from Wednesday morning through to the weekend, closing on Sunday 7 June at 12.00 BST.
Most of the AMM is just procedure and formality, but there are a few important votes to take part in. The AMM will include a recorded introduction from the Masters President, Andy Denison. Everyone else can read the Agenda and supporting papers below.
1. Video announcement from Andy Denison, President
2. Approval of last year’s minutes (vote)
3. Matter arising (Comments available)
4. Bids for 2022
5. President’s Report (FWM2020 Thanks)
6. Election of officers
7. Accounts and Financial Statement
7a. Questions (Comments available)
8. Rule Change for combined EC/FEM (vote)
9. Report on Magazine
10. Future Venues
Further comments
The date of next AMM.
Minutes of the 2019 Annual Masters Meeting
12 June 2019
Held at Skovshoved Havn, Denmark. Meeting opened at 10.06am
Minutes of the 2018 Annual Masters Meeting
Finn World Masters Annual General Meeting - Minutes
24th May 2018, 1000
CN El Balis Yacht Club
1. Apologies
Marc Allain Des Beauvais
2. Approval of 2017 Minutes
Minutes approved by the meeting, proposed by Gus Miller seconded by Bob Buchanan.
3. President’s Report
The Finn World Masters is becoming a large organisation with the trend only going upwards
100 new sailors at this event
New brand the `Finn Masters`, although we are the Finn Wold Masters, its is easier to adopt this brand as well to use when we want.
Important we consider taking the event to the Southern Hemisphere to recognise the support for the class from that part of the world.
However, this would revolve around a sponsored shipping offer.
Barbados was a good event to learn how shipping the boats worked and gave those involved experience in this.
The 2020 event will be hosted in Holland to celebrate the 50th Anniversary of the championship.
`Finn European Masters` now adopted as parts of the Finn Masters brand, and will be a success, both events will work well together.
Sadly, this past year we have lost two prominent Finn sailors Luksa Cicarelli and Viktor Potapov
Thanks from the President to Liz Burrell for her involvement in organising the companions programme for this event. Allan Burrell accepted a gift on her behalf.
4. Election of Officers
Rolf Elsässer and Philip Baum will continue in their roles for a further 4 years and were applauded by the meeting for their support of the Finn Masters and thanked by the president.
5. Masters Entry Fee
The president explained the history of the entry fee
A lot of venues cannot make the event pay with the requirement the masters fleet needs
Charles Heimler gave some context to the Finn Masters entry fee from his experience of other events around the world offered very good value for the sailor
There were no further questions raised on this matter.
Complaint though from the meeting with regards the companions fee for the recent evening meal, was countered by another person from the floor who felt it was good value.
Another suggestion from the floor was to drop the free drinks on offer, the majority of the meeting felt this would not be a good idea.
Question from the floor about the use of a sponsorship template, the president responded in that the Finn Masters have a template which they already use for any event.
Suggestion from the floor that Wilke, Devoti, North and WB sponsor the event, the president responded that they already support the Finn Masters magazine.
The committee however will take these comments on board for the 2019 event.
6. European Masters
Accepted bids from Split 2018 and Schwerin 2019
It was agreed that this meeting moving forward would agree venues for this event.
7. Medal Race
Proposal from the president that the medal race needs to be flexible within the rules depending on entry and venue.
The floor raised the question about consideration of a medal race for each age category
Agreement from the floor for the President’s proposal that the medal race needs to be a flexible option within the rules.
8. Accounts
Income £10900
Accounts are available to those that wish to look at them.
Accounts are now audited through the IFA, which the president felt was professional approach to adopt, the meeting agreed.
9. Magazine
The president thanks Robert Deaves for his involvement with the magazine; the meeting applauded Robert for his contribution.
10. Candidates for 2020
Holland, Port Zélande
Jan Zetzema from Finn Club Holland spoke about the event and the involvement of the junior members on the organising committee and the benefits this brings. Looking forward very much to welcoming the fleet in 2020.
11. Finn European Masters 2020
Poland, Gdynia
Only one candidate so the event will be held in Poland in 2020.
Bob Nowakowski from the Polish association explained to the meeting a little of what to expect and again looked forward to welcoming the fleet in 2020.
12. FWM 2019 – Denmark, Update
Update from Otto Strandvig about the event
Companion programme in place
Otto gave an update on the container shipping from Maersk
Camping available near venue or another campsite nearby.
Looking to have the Danish nationals as a warm up event for the World Masters
Documents on all the above and more will be published soon and available on the World Masters website.
13. Proposal Finn World Masters – Australia and Thailand
Jay Harrison was invited by the President to give an impression of what Sydney can offer in terms of hosting the World Masters
Albert Nazarov, representing The Royal Varuna Yacht Club, in Pattaya, Thailand also gave a brief indication on what the event would look like if it travelled to Thailand.
President was clear to the meeting this was not about voting for a venue for future years but to gauge interest so that both clubs from Thailand and Australia can prepare detailed bids for the event
The meeting agreed that both clubs should prepare detailed bids to be submitted accordingly.
14. AOB
• Proposal from the president to reduce the penalty fee for late entry to the event.
This was countered from the floor that early entry certainly of numbers is crucial to the organisation that goes into such an event,.
Therefore, the late entry fee will remain.
Proposal from the president to consider a system of making it more accurate rather than a show of hands.
Options were discussed around the use of tokens etc
The meeting agreed to look into a suitable option.
• Gus Miller addressed the meeting and gave a passionate speech about saving the Finn as an Olympic Class.
The meeting applauded Gus’ passion for the boat and its sailors
• Philip Baum addressed the meeting giving an insight into his role as a `World Sailing Council Member` and the future of the Finn within the Olympics as well as the future of Sailing within the Olympics
Suggestion that we stop seeing the Finn as a heavyweight men’s event but rather a men’s single handed event
Urged the meeting to compete fairly in urging your countries to support the Finn
The meeting again applauded Philip for his clarity on the current situation.
• Henk de Jager asked the meeting to show their support for the helpers at the event by contributing to a collection.
• Corinne Mckenzie addressed the meeting about what the IFA are doing to support the Finn and how they are working together with World Sailing.
Urged the meeting to all support the Finn and support the youth that are sailing within it.
The meeting again applauded Corinne for her support of the class and the challenges that lay ahead.
The president closed the meeting at 11.05
Minutes of the 2017 Annual Masters Meeting
Held at the Barbados Yacht Club at 10.00 on 7 June 2017
